Didn't take long for the scum to rear their ugly heads, Southampton FC have not even kicked a ball in the Premier League yet and their fans are at it already.
This has to go down as the fastest bandwagon jump in English football history, Scummer SaintNick over at Fans Network: The Ugly Inside (appropriately named) has a lot to say. Something tells me this is just the start of yet another clubs fan base getting bitter, jealous and envious of us, it seems that not being every ones favourite whipping boys anymore has hit a nerve even in the lower leagues.
SaintNick seems to think Manchester City are putting up their prices to fleece away fans out of their hard earned cash, clearly it has nothing to do with visiting the best stadium and hospitality in the country or watching the best players in the English Premier League up close.
Seem to me like they want freebie hand outs along with a pie and pint at Manchester City FC, at a price paid to watch a Championship side in a Championship stadium.
Nick goes on to leave a comment in reply to a fellow City fan:
Quote: "I used to like City, in truth most supporters of other clubs did, we all bought the "peoples club" publicity and felt sorry for you living in the shadow of Man Utd, but as soon as you had money you grasped it greedily at all costs."
I thought this type of mentality was reserved for the foreign fan who knew nothing about English football, it seems infectious on a larger scale than I first thought.
Peoples club?, if he means Manchester peoples club then anyone only need read the history books of football to realise we are the 'Citizens of Manchester'. I fail to understand the 'buying into it' comment considering no one was misled, clearly the lad has limited intelligence.
As for feeling sorry for us well news flash there, if they haven't realised in the last 44 years that we could not give a damn whether they like us or not then they probably never will. It's the 'sound of their own voice and can't see past their own nose syndromes', then there's the money issue.
Seems to me like they think we City fans had a say in who bought our club?, we apparently grasped greedily at the money?, says a fan of a club that spent a lot of cash through the nose for players and a stadium fit for Premier League football (well fit for the past anyway).
I have had the unfortunate opportunity to live a little too close to these Southampton fans, so found it as no surprise that they would rear their ugly mugs eventually.
The fool needs to do exactly what we have been telling other clubs fans to do, and concentrate on their own clubs instead of sticking their big fat noses into ours. Southampton FC's season ticket prices are more expensive than ours, now that is hilarious.
Welcome to the English Premier League scummers, you've spent too long in the lower league and it's a pity you didn't stay there.
Youth Trials
If you hadn't already noticed we have handed trials to:
16 year old Portuguese/Brazilian Attacking Midfielder Marco Lopes from S.L. Benfica, a promising young David Silva with a sweet left foot, you would be fooled by his stature when realising how young he actually is.
18 year old Croatian Striker Mario Jelovic from Hajduk Split, joined them in 08 and made his first and only appearance for them last season, has made several appearances for the Croatian U19's.
20 year old Isreali youngster Nir Biton, another U19 International but not as young from F.C. Ashdod, a 6ft5 Defencive Midfielder with the ability to score goals, has so far made two appearances for the senior Isreali national side.
Promising youngsters Center Mid Abdul Razak and Center Back Karim Rekik continue their fight for a first team place, as does Striker Luca Scapuzzi and Winger Vladimir Weiss though I am unconvinced Weiss's future lay with Manchester City.
20 year old French Midfielder Jeremy Helan also continues his fight for first team football after having a successful time for our Elite Development Squad, a left footed Mid confortable on the wing or as a defensive mid.
While everyone outside Manchester City whine and whinge about how we steal youth and are killing football, our club continue to develop potential that if fail to make enough impact. Will end up at another lucky club and continue their career, with the best wishes of City and us City fans.
Will be interesting to see if John Guidetti sticks with the first team this season, be a shame if he is loaned out again.
The most exciting because I am an Englishman and have followed him closely, is the final breakthrough into the senior setup of our young England striker Harry Bunn. He showed amazing promise at academy level, though had three unsuccessful loan stints at Oldham, Preston and Rochdale making a combined appearance count of 15 scoring 2 goals.
I wish to personally wish Harry and the rest of our youngsters all the best for the coming season.
Blimey! Why do you hate Southampton so much if you don't mind me asking?
ReplyDeleteI don't hate Southampton, I've just unfortunately mostly met the wrong side of your fan base a few times.
DeleteI understand all clubs have their fair share of morons, its just fascinating seeing one lot act so quickly.
St Nick has always believed he is the voice of every Southampton fan, he is most definately not!!!
ReplyDeleteIn fairness his pieces are normally very good and well balanced, on this occasion I think he is out of order.
Well I only speak for myself, always have done.
DeleteThe bit about Southampton staying in the lower league, that was for the disgusting gloating your fellow fans have directed at Portsmouth.
I don't expect you lot to understand I mean, you haven't been there now have you.
And i suppose you never noticed when they did it to us?
DeleteTo be fair the "disgusting gloating your fellow fans have directed at Portsmouth" is no worse than was directed in the other direction 3 years ago when we were going through similar problems and were less than 24 hours from going out of business.
DeleteThere will always be a section of fans from every club who are somewhat bigoted against other clubs but the vast majority would not want Pompey to go out of business altogether as where would our rivalry be then - Bournemouth, Aldershot or Brighton? No thank you.
Errr...Yes we were 'there' in 2009, and yes the gloating was massive from the skates.
DeleteI take it you've forgotten the gloating when they were in the premier league and we were in admin? Or ignored that only this week one of their fans put on a forum that our deceased owner was a nazi and a paedophille. Keep going sunshine, you're making yourself look a right helmet.
Delete"I don't expect you lot to understand I mean, you haven't been there now have you."
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Whats the facepalm for?
DeleteTo suggest Southampton was in Administration is a joke, you sold a few players and created a lot of debt, in the end you sorted it out.
Pompey are in a million times worse situation. they don't have the facility or ability to dig themselves out of the situation they are in.
Your are back at the top in a few years, it would take them a few lifetimes to achieve that.
Are you serious? We were a day away from liquidation! Why do you think we received a ten point penalty in league one?
DeleteJust to give us a challenge?
For somebody who writes a football blog you are impressively ill informed.
Moments from liquidation?, did you actually liquidate?. No you didn't so don't try paint it as if you were on the brink of collapse.
DeleteThe reality is Pompey have collapsed and sunk, they have nothing to keep them afloat, the only reason they still exist is because of the help they got.
They were screwed over by their owner and manager, you were saved by your owner and manager.
WHAT?
DeleteWe were in exactly in the same position that Pompey were and will be until the 10th of August.
Literally, and I actually mean literally, the only difference is the size of the debt owed.
Yes we were saved by our new owner, but that (in the majority of cases) is what a new owner is there for.
He bought us one day before going out of existance and immediately pumped £30m in to the club to pay off all debts.
You fail to see the point that we are all making. Yes, Pompey have been screwed over by their owners, but the fact remains, they are two weeks from liquidation, we were one day from liquidation. Doesn't matter how we/they got there, just that we/they got there.
I think personally, you have written a blog based on a personal issue you have with a club and dressed it up as something completely different.
You, my friend, are a terrible blogger. No fact, all biased BS.
Let me finish your comment for you, no one is going to come and save Pompey.
DeleteThey have no potential buyers in the pipeline, Pompeys current owner does not have the funds to save them. They have lost their real value and have no star players of any real worth, their stadium is not fit for the Premier League and they are in over their heads.
I'd bet my soul you're all laughing your arses off when they do go under.
I personally would hate to see Pompey go under. More so than most other clubs.
DeleteAs a passionate saints fan, yes, I am not crying over it, but to say I would be laughing is so far from the truth.
They are our rival. Our only rival. I want my kids to grow up and watch Saints Vs Pompey. I want them to understand the history between our rivalry (coincidentally, something you seemed to have overlooked!).
Yes, their situation isn't great, but I for one genuinely hope that they pull through.
I have even gone so far as to suggest to Southampton FC a charity friendly be played against whatever team they can muster.
Not all fans are so blinded by hatred as you seem to be.
I have read you're article over and over and it makes me more angry each time. It's not even the content. Its the passion and intent you have to see Southampton and their 'scum' fans hated by all.
DISGUSTING ARTICLE.
You're so far off the mark its unbelievable, you Southampton fans keep stating I hate you but in reality I don't.
DeleteI don't hate Southampton, I don't hate the Southampton fans either. I just don't like the mouthy section of Southampton fans that bad mouth us and are wishing for Pompey to go under just to satisfy their own personal welbeing.
Don't tell me they don't exist because I've met quite a few and also witnessed a reasonable amount on forums. They remind me of what we have had to put up with from United fans, I not once did I say I hated Southampton FC, when I suggested it was a pity you didn't stat there in the lower league it was aimed at those fans like SaintNick.
Think what you like, it's no skin off my nose.
Ignore SaintNick. He's not at all representative of the majority of Saints fans and has an overinflated view of his own self importance. Plus he needs to invest in a spell checker!!!
ReplyDeleteRelax Mr Man City man, i'm a Saints fan and i'm great(!), i have no opinion on city good or bad but was chuffed when you snatched the league from Man U. All clubs have idiots and you've met a few of our too, don't worry its not representative, even Man C may have some. I'm a fan, watch alot of non-league, will go to less games in the prem than i did in league 1 and would buy you a pint if i met you, all the best for the season dude.
DeleteWow. You clearly are quite upset about something.
ReplyDeleteBTW - 'scummer' is a term used affectionately by Pompey fans - you're not a secret sailor are you?
"The disgusting gloating your fellow fans have directed at Portsmouth" - are you joking?? They deserve every bit of misery they are now enduring - if a club lives wildly beyond its means (and minuscule fan base), wins a trophy while ripping off its suppliers, then a certain kind of karma is coming its way my friend.
ReplyDeletePS I am a Saints fan, but I like City, always have, always will. Even if you thrash us in a few weeks time!
I agree, dont take what SaintNick says as representing all of us.
ReplyDeleteCiTyBlUe: I haven't read any but I am sure there has been some "disgusting gloating" at Pompey fans. However, I am sure it isn't any better or worse than that given to us when we were down and almost out. Half may family are Pompey fans so I just enjoy healthy banter, I don't want to see them liquidated!
CiTyBlUe - when SaintNick is talking about the "peoples club" i think its fair to say he is refering to the fact that Man City have always been supported by real fans, most of whom eminate from Manchester, unlike the Red side, whose 'fans' come from god knows where.. anyway back to the real point here.. £50 for a ticket to watch a 90min game of footbal is a lot - forget comparables.. £50 is stil a lot of money. I like City, always have. I used to enjoy being welcomed at the working mans club across from Maine Road (and the rolls for 50p!), but as fans we are being raped of our hard earned cash to bay for millionaire footballers who earn far more than the Bankers we all love to hate.. just a thought.. (PS im sure that if you want to pay £50 for an away ticket to StMarys we'd bite your hand off :)
ReplyDeleteI’m guessing you used to live in Portsmouth?
ReplyDeleteSouthampton have kicked loads of balls and played hundreds of games in the Premier League.
Your point about Manchester City’s season ticket prices being lower than Southampton’s discredits your argument against the idea that Manchester City are trying to ‘fleece away fans’. I’m not saying that Manchester City are deliberately fleecing away fans but a ticket to see Manchester City will cost a Southampton fan £51 compared to the £25.50 it will cost to see Arsenal vs. Southampton, this is compounded by the fact that equivalent seats in the home end at Manchester City are cheaper at £45. You ask Southampton fans to focus on their own club, we are and we are focusing on how expensive it will be to support them away from home this season. I’m sure that we can all agree that throughout the football league it can be ridiculously expensive to support a football team.
Your belief that Manchester City is ‘everyone’s favourite whipping boy’ is some kind of bizarre paranoia. Is this some kind of ‘the referee always rules against us’ thing? I’ve never felt anything but indifference towards Manchester City and I even support City over United.
It didn’t take you very long to become incredibly arrogant after winning the Premier League. I dislike the way Manchester United fans always seem to assume that they deserve to win and I really hope that your fan base doesn’t go the same way. I doubt that the Etihad Stadium is the best ground and has the best hospitality in the country, but I’m sure there’s some award somewhere to prove me wrong. There are also a lot of teams in the Premier League which can claim to have the best players.
We’d love to win the Premier League and have a team full of truly world class players but I wouldn’t say that we’re jealous or envious of Manchester City, we’ve achieved two successive promotions and are slowly building and consolidating. The way that football is today, it is unrealistic to compare a club that has just been promoted to the Premier League to a club that has just won it. Which club fan bases are bitter, jealous and envious of you?
I don’t always agree with SaintNick, but I’m really glad that we don’t have an arrogant, biased and conceited blogger like you writing and representing our club.
You guessed right, my family served in the Royal Navy, hence why I live in Portsmouth.
DeleteIf you think you're going to be charged £25 to £30 at the Emirates to watch poxy Arsenal then you are seriously deluded.
We are being charged £25!! Am I still deluded!?
DeleteI have just checked by asking on an Arsenal forum.
DeleteThey replied that because they won't be selling out season tickets this season, that they will have more seats to fill so are allocating them to certain clubs at reduced prices.
You can bet your life Chelsea, United, Liverpool, Spurs, Manchester City fans etc, won't be getting the same value for money.
Take your whining elsewhere and stay at home, watch on TV with a bag of popcorn or something.
I imagine you are exactly the type of fan that follows Man City all over the country!!
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ReplyDeleteI'm guessing you're bored
DeleteThe skates from Portsmouth did the same when we were in admin and almost went bust, but 9/10 saints fans wouldnt want them to go under, rivarly is what fuels us. Personally 51 quid is a hell of a lot considering all the extras you need to buy, but its a huge day out. I think you were being extremely harsh based on a few moron fans.
ReplyDeletePS glad youve got the title and utd aint ;)
So you don't think the ticket price is to much ?????
ReplyDeleteI'm married to a Manchester City fan, but the rest of them are aright!
ReplyDeleteNo sensibly sane person thinks that fans have much say in takeovers, ticket prices or state of the facilities.
Your facilities merit the price, the quality of football merits the price, and the player wages mean it should really cost a lot more to attend.
Author, you've made a similar mistake by referring to naughty Nick as 'they'. When in fact you mean 'he'. The rest of us are fair and good-natured.
Many Saints fans read what Nick says, then either laugh at, correct or ignore what he has said.
He does a great job of his setting and tracking the points target however.
To all Man City fans, congratulations on enjoying title success. Keep supporting your team. You've got your target for the season, we've got a different one and they only cross paths twice.
WOW you go on one independent Southampton FC site and tar everyone with the same brush, quite day was it
ReplyDeleteSeems to me like half your fans are stating they wash their hands of this SaintNick, the other half are mouthing off about how you spent more time in the league over us blah blah etc.
DeleteThis was not an attack on Southampton as a club or the majority, this was an attack on the idiots jumping on the City hate bandwagon.
SaintNick clearly has a hatred for us, and has made it clear he thinks we are a soul sold money grabbing bunch of title buyers.
I have a right to reply and I have, you either like it or you don't.
It clearly is an attack on Southampton, the City, the Club and its fans becauseyou call us "scummers"
DeleteYou live in Pompey your parents where in the Royal Navy so I am assuming you moved there with them when you where still young, but you support Man City.
For how long I wonder. Around 8 years is my guess.
You probably supported Pompey while you where at school, probably started speaking with a more pronounced Manc accent when Oasis became popular too!
Its the problem with these websites. too easy for morons like you and Saint Nick to have a voice.
Go on then ill entertain you, you're partly right.
DeleteI did move to Pompey at a young age because of the Navy but my home has always been Longsight, Manchester where my grandad lived.
No I never supported Pompey, the only ever Pompey match I ever went to were when Manchester City played them.
I were born in 75 and have supported City pretty much my whole life, you do the math.
Unlike SaintNick I don't speak for my fellow fan, but saying that us morons give you internet warrior morons a place to vent your anger.
Ive not read Nicks dit but I imagine that it is nostalgic for an underdog that tries hard and doesn’t succeed. Don’t think this is a Saints thing for a second, its a English desease, that reflects our shame at being the historic centre of one of the most successful Empires in history.
ReplyDeleteAs a Saints fan I do want to do things properly but if we become successful backed by huge investment (foreign or otherwise) I will not be ashamed.
I enjoyed League 1, but in truth that was because we won most weeks!
I bear City no malice, good luck to them but i hope (most likely beyond reason) that we beat them twice.
One word though, it makes you look pretty dumb to refer to Saints fans as scum. You can expect that from a badly educated Pompey fan looking for a reason for a rivalry. It would be like you lot basing your rivalry with United based on Trafford Park v the Arndale!
Theres a lot of Southampton fans stating that Pompey fans were gloating when Southampton were in administration if you could call it that, I think the whole Southampton in administration was a load of bollox if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteregular income from a Premier League standard stadium with an established following fan base, compared to Pompey's shambles of a stadium that could not accomodate their equally big following?
Southampton fans started the bitter rivalry between both clubs, I was there in the street when Southampton fans kicked off for the first time, most Popmey fans were just making their way home and your lot tried to cut them off at the pass.
I was there and for the idiot scummer implying I may be a skate, skate is the term used for an American sailor you doosh bag.
But while you scummers insult sailors, might I remind you my dad, grandad and his dad served for the privileges you so conveniently abuse, so with that said shut your mouthes and think before you open them.
Yes I do live in Portsmouth but no I don't support Portsmouth shoul answer your questions.
The point is if you don't want to spend £50 odd squid for watching a higher class of player away from home then stay at home, watch on TV and whine all you like to the screen.
To all those Southampton fans that are seeing past the little jibe I had at the end of the article, I salute you for seeing the bigger picture here that the level of football that will be played is a step up from Championship and warrants the fee I would honestly be happy to pay myself as a City fan.
Agreed, Southampton have a better stadium and that was a big help in finding a buyer to take them out of administration. But neither Southampton nor Portsmouth managed to fill their stadiums while facing difficulties. The season before last, Southampton averaged higher attendances than Portsmouth despite Southampton being in the Championship and Portsmouth in the Premier League.
DeleteYou realise your diction in the third paragraph suggests that you were there when the rivalry between Southampton and Portsmouth football clubs first started in 1900?
You’re being a little facetious with your sanctimonious defence of the word ‘skate’, in this context it’s a derogatory term for Portsmouth fans and though it is historically associated with sailors we don’t really use words like ‘scum’ or ‘yid’ literally either.
You are clueless aren't you! You have been deluded by the chat of the Pompey fans around you, hence your biased opinion against us. I work in Pompey and enjoy banter like 95% of saints fans, but when someone that doesn't know me comes into my place of work and finds out I'm a saints fan, some give me banter but others won't even talk to me! If you lived in soton you would be biased the other way... That is why you article and opinion is completely irrelevant.
DeleteAs is Pompey fans term scum, I guess I just picked it up while in the company of Pompey fans.
DeleteI was talking about the flash point, it wasn't until the early 1980s that it really escalated between the clubs, a brick was thrown by a Southampton fan missing my head by inches while I walked home from school with my pals.
Spare me the 'wrong place at the wrong time' comment please.
Looking forward to 19 august, as a Saints fan who saw Mick Channon put five Man city players on their rearends in about 15 seconds by dribbling past them, Colin Bell and Mike Sumerbee included, 1969? i hope we can repeat the performance on that day. 3-1 to saints. Was a great pair of teams giving no quarter, thrilling to watch. As for the blue few, good luck to them coz it's luck they need now, Aug 10,
ReplyDeleteman city fan living in portsmouth, says it all really, are you about 11 years old and last year you were a man utd fan, surprised you are not supporting chelsea this year after all they are champions of europe.
ReplyDeleteShouldn't even warrant a reply.
DeleteI'd guess from the sentence length and lack of capitalisation that this anonymous poster is 11 years old.
Deletemaybe but not a glory hunter like you lot, I agree with st nick £51 to watch a game of football is rediculous, it is because of your lot and the chelsea's paying over 200k per week that clubs are goin bust and admission prices are that high.
Deletehilarious, so it's ours and Chelsea's fault?
DeleteNot Man United's fault for inflating the market so no one else could compete unless they paid more.
Done one jippo.
your not very nice are you telling me to do one, well what do i have to do, you are the one who started to criticise someone for a comment made about ticket prices, ticket prices are to high that is a fact, so are players wages and if they dont come down football in this country is in danger of going to the wall.
DeleteDo one is a polite way of saying get lost with your football doom mongery, it's upto you if want to buy into us killing football, you don't have to do anything other than spare us the never ending story of how we inflated an already inflated sport and how we are single handedly destroying the world of football.
DeleteAs a saints fan, I can tell you this guy does not reflect our support. I went mental when Aguero scored that goal, and supported you through the whole season. I don't begrudge the prices charged at your ground and accept "you get what you pay for" after all, Southampton prices have increased as well this year. Cant wait for the game in August, and im banking on the fact you guys think you just need to turn up to win, so my moneys on a draw (but would be content with just not conceding too many!!)
ReplyDeleteGood luck humiliation MU again!!
Northern Scum
ReplyDeleteSays it all.
DeleteI don't really have any problem with your points on the pricing of games or any of that, in fact, I agree with you. Money talks, for a season at least this is the best team in the country.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I really am baffled at your reluctance to accept that Southampton were in Administration. Even the most perfunctory amount of research before you posted, or even now, could confirm that they actually were. I won't insult your intelligence by posting a link to, even, Wikipedia. Surely if you decide to write a blog, you have a certain obligation to yourself and your readers to either have, or try to attain, a rudimentary knowledge about the teams you're going to talk about.
You showed some distaste for the dogmatic name calling and aggression between sets of fans, its historical context or whatever. Maybe you could avoid that by not constructing your article entirely around the term 'scummer', and in doing so that might help to stop perpetuating the bad blood. Right?
In name calling, and by taking such an aggressive and generalizing tone towards Southampton in general, you pretty much immediately destroy your credibility.
Just my two cents really. Take care and enjoy the season.
Are you for real?, We have been branded bitters for over three decades and laughat it ourselves, and you're all getting all sensitive over a being called a scummer?
DeleteI don't deny you were in administration?, I just object to you Southampton fans comparing it with Pompey's situation.
There was no way on earth you would hit liquidation, you also had the ability to big your way out of the situation you were in.
I'm not too fussed about the bad blood.
I dont see why pompey must be saved. Having racked up £150 million pound of debt in the first admin, which they have never paid a penny back. They are now in admin again, having once again offered large salaries to entice players that they couldnt afford. No other business would be allowed to continue so football should be no different. Ask tthe local schools, businesses and charity if they think its fair.
DeleteExactly the kind of Southampton fan I'm talking about, as for this bullshit about Pompey stealing from charities etc.
DeleteExactly that, a complete and utter load of bullshit, created by twisted Southampton fans.
Looking through your comments section, I don't see one from another City fan. Says a huge amount about the quality of your blog really... Doesn't look like many come back for a second view.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, good luck for the season.
Two points to make:
ReplyDeletePOINT ONE: Why don't Southampton charge city fans £50 when the come to St Mary's. Like the blogger pointed out, they will still be watching the same 'high quality, world beating football'. Just somewhere else. And in the instance that the catering was in fact a major part of your reasoning, you can bring a Ginsters.
POINT TWO: If the ticketprices are directly linked to the quality of football and facilities, you would find that tickets to watch Barca or Real are £100. But, in reality, we both know they aren't. They are £30.
Answer to point one: good idea though I highly doubt you will provide a better match day experience to warrant a price match.
DeleteAnswer to point two: Lets face facts here, their stadiums are devastatingly bigger than ours meaning huge support, the people there earn a much lower income compared to the UK and they can afford to charge less.
Stupidity to compare us with Barca and Real, keep the Ginsters pasties, I prefer the more enjoyable and value for money pie and pudding.
Yes a lot of people in spain are unemployed but thats the same situation here
DeleteWho said anything about Unemployment?
Deletewould you gloat in man united went bust? what about the "welcome to manchester" jibe when tevez signed?
ReplyDeleteHonestly and personally yes I would gloat, unlike you I have 30 odd years of gloating to repay United. The fact United have perverted English football with their wealth while everyone else struggled says it all, you're probably a secret rag as I know quite a few of you Southampton fans are.
DeleteThere's a huge difference between banter and abuse, when you have put up with decades of abuse under a successful football club while suffering come back.
Until then don't even pretend to understand how it felt, or try compare the rivalries between you and Pompey, us and the rags.
HILARIOUS, the City v Saints game is a sell out, and I bet 99% of these stuck up Saints fans whining about ticket prices were not even intending to attend anyway.
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